Considering one of these

It will be June before i can make my next purchase but 6 months will give me plenty of time to figure out what I want. I'm going to prolly get a G&G sportline MP5a4 for CQB and i'm looking for a great field rifle with some range and I defiantly want an M16 style weapon. I have been looking at these two lately. Any thoughts or Opinions are welcome. Please say why you would pick one over the other....Thanks

KWA KM16SR12

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G&G GR16R5

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I would go with the KWA it comes with a 9mm gb and will do 20+ rps stock

I'm lovin' that G&G!!

But why tinman?

KWA is not reliable on the m-4 series the g36 series are great but the m-4's are just not worth the money.They are to hit an miss on getting one that works.Besides On Target Airsoft will have G&G's after the first of the year and we get 10% off for being members of AREA13

Well, the only thing wrong with the KWA M16/M4 series is the wiring. Other than that they are awesome, great power and great ROF and are internally tanks, you just have to watch out for bad wiring, but honestly if you are looking for range that KWA will easily beat the G&G, I have used both the KWA SR12 and numerous G&G M16s, as well as owning one myself and right out of the box your G&G will not have the power and range much less ROF that the KWA has. But its wiring will work.

Some of the KWA's also suffer from compression problems I have seen 3 with low compression.I still prefer the G&G but it's your money. I'm sure you'll be happy with either one.

Alpine wrote:KWA is not reliable on the m-4 series the g36 series are great but the m-4's are just not worth the money.They are to hit an miss on getting one that works.Besides On Target Airsoft will have G&G's after the first of the year and we get 10% off for being members of AREA13

....... I dont know about that. The SR 12 not only looks amazing but preforms extremely well. You'll get to see one this weekend finally in use for real. for an extra 20$ you'll get a much better externally built gun and a rock solid set of internals. I say the G&G is great too but spend the 20$ and get the KWA. The chances of you getting a bad one arent that great haha.

As for the M4's.... They are absolutely worth the money. I had mine for over a year and a half with no problems, not to mention the lack of need for upgrades and great preformance out of the box. The problem my M4 had wasnt even in the gearbox. For 290-300$ the M4A1 from the Gen I series of KWA destroys any 200$ Echo 1 type gun in preformance and lifetime.

Nothing personal, I just love my KWAs.

NJSC wrote:But why tinman?

Well . . . have to admit to being shallow-hal on this one . . . just like the look.
The KWA will outperform the G&G in terms of ROF and FPS . . .
Just like Paul said . . . only prob I have heard from them is wiring.
(Personally, I'd build one from scratch Q!)

Retherford wrote:

Alpine wrote:KWA is not reliable on the m-4 series the g36 series are great but the m-4's are just not worth the money.They are to hit an miss on getting one that works.Besides On Target Airsoft will have G&G's after the first of the year and we get 10% off for being members of AREA13

....... I dont know about that. The SR 12 not only looks amazing but preforms extremely well. You'll get to see one this weekend finally in use for real. for an extra 20$ you'll get a much better externally built gun and a rock solid set of internals. I say the G&G is great too but spend the 20$ and get the KWA. The chances of you getting a bad one arent that great haha.

As for the M4's.... They are absolutely worth the money. I had mine for over a year and a half with no problems, not to mention the lack of need for upgrades and great preformance out of the box. The problem my M4 had wasnt even in the gearbox. For 290-300$ the M4A1 from the Gen I series of KWA destroys any 200$ Echo 1 type gun in preformance and lifetime.

Nothing personal, I just love my KWAs.

Just stating what I have personally seen from KWA. I like the way they look and feel just think for the money they should do better qc to catch the bad ones before they ship but hey they sell super fast so probably not gonna happen with the qc.As far as seeing one in action been there done that they have a lot of them in action at G.T. but anyway see ya this weekend.

All comments duly noted!
Like i said i still have 6 months so plenty of time to decide.
I would very much like to shoot you SR12 this Sat at the BYOB Cody.

I dont think Ill be letting you shoot me hahhaha, but you can certainly test out the SR 12. If you do decide on it for future reference, some people may say they run on mini battery with connectors but they dont. Get a large battery for it. Im pretty sure a large battery would be better for either gun anyways.

Retherford wrote:I dont think Ill be letting you shoot me hahhaha, but you can certainly test out the SR 12. If you do decide on it for future reference, some people may say they run on mini battery with connectors but they dont. Get a large battery for it. Im pretty sure a large battery would be better for either gun anyways.

Haha!...Shoot you!
For some reason I always leave out the R in the word "Your" when Typing?

Thanks....look forward to test it out. I got to hold the rifle at OP Morphine and it did feel quite nice in my hands.

just be careful that ris will slice your hands up. That's one thing I really loved about holding cody's sr12, the lines so clean you could cut up some blowfish sushi.

NJSC wrote:just be careful that ris will slice your hands up. That's one thing I really loved about holding cody's sr12, the lines so clean you could cut up some blowfish sushi.

hmmmm . . . may have ta try that out . . . Aggressor sez he's bringin OCTOPUS to grill for dinner! Retherford, we'll be sure and hose it down after we're done!