JUDGING MEDS

HOW DO YOU JUDGE YOUR MEDS?
we had a bunch of drama at this last game om med violations.
not from the GA side but SC.
i stated that if i walk in to your med range i broke it not you.
IE running within a 100 feet of a sniper to get a surrender.
this is a tactic used by some players.
i was called out for being dangerous and stupid.
they asked how i would know what the med of a players gun was.
i say a sniper bar10/l96 out of the box can be sub 400.
so how did they judge the med violations?
this is not to stir up anything,i am just curious.

so how do you judge a med from you/to you?
this is what i do.

i look at it as most guns have about 15 feet(length of a small car--its airsoft and i will get shot)when shooting at me.
me shooting at them i give 50 feet (two small cars as i tune my guns close to field limits)and around 150 (about 3 school buses)for the sniper(anything closer is just not as fun)
how about you?

i dont lol, its airsoft. you choose to play so deal with the pain. if i tell you to surrender and i see no hands go up im going to shoot you. (in the rig most likely) sometimes accidents happin, its part of the game. MEDS should only be used in CQB and with the use of simunition

Only a quick glance gives me an approximate distance, although for the most part i try to get the enemy player in the vest or non-exposed body parts when it seems like im near the MED limit

i've accepted the fact that i will get shot within MED. therefore, i don't complain about it. if anyone really doesn't expect to get shot within MED, then they need to play a new sport. sorta like competing in a contact sport and not expecting to get hurt.

i've also accepted the fact that some people will not call their hits. therefore, it doesn't make me mad. but what does make me mad is when they think they hit me. "how did that not hit you?" simple, you missed bro... LoL

i've shot people within MED on my JG (at night, sorry Jay... LoL). but he took it like a man. Kudos. i've also been shot within MED at night. it hurt, but me no mad bro...

whenever i play CQB, i bleed alot. so i avoid CQB unless it's raining or no outdoor events going on that weekend.

it's really not that hard to judge MED. we violate it because we know the other person will violate it when given the opportunity. but when sneaking up on someone within 10 feet. the attacker has a choice to back away and shoot or get up closer for a safety kill. what's this surrender thing? if my muzzle is pointed at you and you ask me to surrender, then sucks to be you... (usually i'm aiming at your vest, but if you don't have a vest, then really, sux2BU).

if someone gets the drop on me. i raise my hands and call myself out. if he still shoots me, no worries. that's airsoft.
Poop has unloaded on me during an ACZ game at full auto within MED. no worries. it hurt but it was fun.

i think that was the same day team alex was shooting the crap out of me in the woods.
you gave me few snipes to the face that day
it seems that some prople can't handle action sports.
stunting i have snaped an acl,dislocated my thumb,sprained ankles,knees,shoulders,and had more road rash than i can remember.
but i never once thought to get mad at the road or scream at the bike.i did it because i loved it.
love of that sport gave me a chance to peform in front of over 3000 people.
if you accept the risk and take what it gives you.the rewards are great.

Foud out for those that are interested, YMCA does have basket weaving class in June. Meds are a guide line, but it is hard to judge them in the heat of the battle. I you try to run up on me, within my med, I will yel "surrender" but you will get two shoots coming at you by the time I have the "r" rolling out my mouth. I switch to side arm when I am coming behind or in a true CQB location.

That is my thoughts. I would expect that from anyone else.

I honestly think MEDS should just go away. Its airsoft, deal with it. This is coming from a guy who has been shot from less then 5 feet on full auto more times then I can count. Probably becuase I put myself in that situation because Im not afriad of a little sting.

Twitch wrote:I honestly think MEDS should just go away. Its airsoft, deal with it. This is coming from a guy who has been shot from less then 5 feet on full auto more times then I can count. Probably becuase I put myself in that situation because Im not afriad of a little sting.

+100

it will eventually heal...

i agree
look at all the indoor games in ga.most are 400 fps or less.
we don't hear about med violations.

I'm not all for meds, but i belive players should use common sense. if your weapon puts hole is anything within 50 feet, try not to shoot anyone too close

I feel that my short story on the OP: SOCO AAR kinda spurred this on and therefore I feel compelled to explain myself. SOCO was my first major game. I had yet to ever play a game with serious airsofters on an established field with set rules and regulations. When my M16 broke down, like I said, I borrowed a sniper rifle. When we were ambushed I was definitely within the weapon's MED. I didn't fire for several reasons:

1. I was yelling surrender like I was told to. I didn't know that it was a challenge that could be ignored. If I'd known that, I would've fired as soon as he turned to me.
   
2. I didn't want to shoot him this close because I didn't know how hot the rifle was shooting. Also, he wasn't wearing a plate carrier; just a chest rig.
   
3. I figured that calling surrender and surrendering was the rule. I figured that if I shot him, I'd get in trouble for breaking the MED. I didn't want to get in trouble so I didn't fire.

Now that I know, I will remember this for the next time I'm in a situation like this. What you guys are saying make sense and I'll remember it.

I think MEDs shouldnt matter. Its airsoft your going to get shot end of story. If someone comes close to you and you do not want to get shot within a "MED" then just surrender your self.

Hippie wrote:I feel that my short story on the OP: SOCO AAR kinda spurred this on and therefore I feel compelled to explain myself. SOCO was my first major game. I had yet to ever play a game with serious airsofters on an established field with set rules and regulations. When my M16 broke down, like I said, I borrowed a sniper rifle. When we were ambushed I was definitely within the weapon's MED. I didn't fire for several reasons:

1. I was yelling surrender like I was told to. I didn't know that it was a challenge that could be ignored. If I'd known that, I would've fired as soon as he turned to me.
   
2. I didn't want to shoot him this close because I didn't know how hot the rifle was shooting. Also, he wasn't wearing a plate carrier; just a chest rig.
   
3. I figured that calling surrender and surrendering was the rule. I figured that if I shot him, I'd get in trouble for breaking the MED. I didn't want to get in trouble so I didn't fire.

Now that I know, I will remember this for the next time I'm in a situation like this. What you guys are saying make sense and I'll remember it.

it was not you
we had a bunch of players yelling about med violations,when i gave my opinion
on the SC forum i was shut down or called reckless.i just wanted to see how we (ga players ) judged meds.i think in the end the med thing was an excuse.pushed back---med,sniped from nowhere---med,overran---med,out played---med.it just got old quick.i am so glad i play in a state where even the girls are men about getting shot.we need to plan ahead if we are to play in Sissy Country.no guns over 300 fps and if someone shoots at you (hit or not ) you must call yourself hit.that way we will not be called cheaters.
or maybe just have a nerf war

sniper2525 wrote:I think MEDs shouldnt matter. Its airsoft your going to get shot end of story. If someone comes close to you and you do not want to get shot within a "MED" then just surrender your self.

^^^ this

i do this when playing CQB. when someone gets the jump on me, i immediately put one hand up and rifle face down and yell i surrender. works great. they should make this a rule. when i get the jump on someone within 5 feet, i say "you're hit player". they know exactly that surrender isn't an option and that i was kind enough not to shoot them. at 10 feet it's sketchy. i normally don't allow myself to get at around that range outdoors. it's either outside MED or within 5 feet (running up into a bunker).

when i play CQB, i use our 300fps stubbies. i've shot players at 5 feet without them complaining. the last CQB game, my zombat chrono'd at 260fps. and shot many players within 5 feet without any complaints. they just freak out when it's a full auto game (40+rps). if i'm using our 400fps battle rifles, i avoid rushing into bunkers with it. again, last CQB i didn't bleed much. i wore a heavier jacket then usual and didn't suffer close range shots. i see players wearing shorts and t-shirts at CQB, wth? they had bloody arms.

I say out with the MEDS and in with the Hand to hand combat.....

I totally agree with Trent on this. Unfortunately, I don't think it could be a feasible option, I think people would still find a way to complain about it, and then be able to shift blame to the store as opposed to the just being mad at the player.

MEDs are very tenuous things that are impossible police and enforce......the only way that fields and promoters will be able to protect themselves in the in the event of the "blame" paul mentioned will be to put in real FPS limits....a la what PB had to do....

MEDs are ridiculous. No way to enforce them at all. During SOCO I came up behind a bunker, flipped to semi, and shot two guys in the back in the plate carrier. One proceeded to turn around as I got even closer, probably 5 feet away, and shot me full auto in the head after I killed him. I didnt say a word, turned around and waited for the medic. Its a game. If you dont want to get shot, dont play.

Flip to semi, shoot center mass, avoid complication

Retherford wrote:MEDs are ridiculous. No way to enforce them at all. During SOCO I came up behind a bunker, flipped to semi, and shot two guys in the back in the plate carrier. One proceeded to turn around as I got even closer, probably 5 feet away, and shot me full auto in the head after I killed him. I didnt say a word, turned around and waited for the medic. Its a game. If you dont want to get shot, dont play.

Flip to semi, shoot center mass, avoid complication

why didn't you call me and cry med violation?
that was the way to handle that.
oh
you played for ga,we don't cry.
we don't play airSOFT

I must admit i am usually guilty of not flipping to semi because I dont want them to say I didnt hit them.

ye dont be a girl you are going to get shot if you play airsoft . i safety killed a guy saturday night and he proceeded to shoot me 6 times from 2ft away ,yes i was pissed but i shot him in the face from 70 ft so i called it even (not intentionally )..you have to use common sense safety kills are for if you sneak up on somebody not face to face if you dont want to get shot from 20 ft surrender or bleed .. i will be nice and shoot for the vest or legs except for the players (i know who you are) that have the kevlar airsoft tactical vest