Politics Anyone?

Tinman wrote:I guess we are all off-topic since Reed asked about the address to congress rather than the address to schools. Plain and simple it is a bunch of manure. Nationalized healthcare is an impossibility. I am likely one of the only individuals here who has lived in a socialist country that "provides" socialized medicine . . . what is "socialized" is the long lines!
People wait forever to have the chance to see a doctor only to get a referral rather than treatment. Let's face it: people of means from countries with "national healthcare plans" come to the US to get treatment because they cannot get it there. The United States is a great country that SUCKS everytime it tries to screw with capitalism! EVERY time the government sets out to take over something that should be handled by the private sector it only makes it worse.
If they cannot handle the postal system they cannot handle healthcare!
If they cannot handle Cash for Clunkers they cannot handle healthcare!
If they cannot handle enough bandwith for the president to speak THEY CANNOT HANDLE HEALTHCARE!!
Hence: His speech to congress . . . MANURE!

Hans wrote:

SCB airsoft wrote:All i can say is Obama can kiss my a** . Schools are forcing kids to watch his press conference. And Obama is talking about staying in school , his trying to trick kids about health care . And the schools are letting him . That's almost like dictatorship .

Wow.

Yeah our school gave us the decision to leave the classroom and sit in the theatre for the duration of the speech.

Bulldog94 wrote:

Tinman wrote:I guess we are all off-topic since Reed asked about the address to congress rather than the address to schools. Plain and simple it is a bunch of manure. Nationalized healthcare is an impossibility. I am likely one of the only individuals here who has lived in a socialist country that "provides" socialized medicine . . . what is "socialized" is the long lines!
People wait forever to have the chance to see a doctor only to get a referral rather than treatment. Let's face it: people of means from countries with "national healthcare plans" come to the US to get treatment because they cannot get it there. The United States is a great country that SUCKS everytime it tries to screw with capitalism! EVERY time the government sets out to take over something that should be handled by the private sector it only makes it worse.
If they cannot handle the postal system they cannot handle healthcare!
If they cannot handle Cash for Clunkers they cannot handle healthcare!
If they cannot handle enough bandwith for the president to speak THEY CANNOT HANDLE HEALTHCARE!!
Hence: His speech to congress . . . MANURE!

AGREED!!!!!

SCB airsoft wrote:

Hans wrote:

SCB airsoft wrote:All i can say is Obama can kiss my a** . Schools are forcing kids to watch his press conference. And Obama is talking about staying in school , his trying to trick kids about health care . And the schools are letting him . That's almost like dictatorship .

Wow.

Yeah our school gave us the decision to leave the classroom and sit in the theatre for the duration of the speech.

I don't think a lot of people understand me i had a lot of friends that were forced to watch it . So a lot of my friends skip school .

SCB airsoft wrote:All i can say is Obama can kiss my a** . Schools are forcing kids to watch his press conference. And Obama is talking about staying in school , his trying to trick kids about health care . And the schools are letting him . That's almost like dictatorship .

SCB airsoft wrote:Yeah but if Bush was still in office they wouldn't make the kids watch him . If bush had a press conference about health care nobody would care about him . I see your point about kids learning about politics it's just they wouldn't make kids watch Bush but they make kids watch Obama .

|337 wrote:So how 'bout obamas comments on kayne west?

|337 wrote:So how 'bout obamas comments on kayne west?

WPeake23 [SOTHG] wrote:

SCB airsoft wrote:

Hans wrote:

SCB airsoft wrote:All i can say is Obama can kiss my a** . Schools are forcing kids to watch his press conference. And Obama is talking about staying in school , his trying to trick kids about health care . And the schools are letting him . That's almost like dictatorship .

Wow.

Yeah our school gave us the decision to leave the classroom and sit in the theatre for the duration of the speech.

I don't think a lot of people understand me i had a lot of friends that were forced to watch it . So a lot of my friends skip school .

Come on now. It's not bad enough that they needed to skip school. IMO A good American needs to be able to at least watch our president talk about something non-political, without being like that about it.

jjay3200 wrote:

SCB airsoft wrote:All i can say is Obama can kiss my a** . Schools are forcing kids to watch his press conference. And Obama is talking about staying in school , his trying to trick kids about health care . And the schools are letting him . That's almost like dictatorship .

come on cut some slck hes our nation president if your going to talk bad about him you acting unamerican please be polite

Aggressor Dog wrote:No. The most american thing you can do is speak your mind about politics freely, be it contrary to the President's ideas or not. An UnAmerican ideal would be to blindly follow your leaders.

Aggressor Dog wrote:No. The most american thing you can do is speak your mind about politics freely, be it contrary to the President's ideas or not. An UnAmerican ideal would be to blindly follow your leaders. As for the statement of him being the smartest president by far, that cant be proven, let alone argued soundly. Hes been in office for less than a year.

{ACE}Steve-o wrote:jjay, there is such thing as periods.

back on topic now.

I think Bush took the fall for what Clinton set up.

How can a nation expect an economy to succeed at a time of war?? Has it ever in the past? If Obama would have been in Bush's shoes at that particular time, the economy would have plunged just as it did. One man didnt put American into trillions of dollars of debt.

Also, if you have researched many of Obama's policies, you should know that he has done his great share of "useless" spending.

Last point to be made, or suggested. . . . . You mentioned a "government official" said the end of the recession is near on the news. It sure is nice to know the media is reliable. woah, what a relief.

jjay3200 wrote:





okay i agree with you on the spending part we are spending a bite much in such a short time but are you talking about the econmy when have plunged if obama was in bushes shoes no way cause obama is smarter than bush dont forget that bush was droping any where from 5 to 40 billion in the war almost every week

and please this shouldnt not be blamed on obama because he is black i think that wrong and we should give people a chance no matter what color he is

|337 wrote:jjay, you keep telling us that voicing our opinions on Obama is "UnAmerican" but you in turn rag on Bush, saying that it is all his fault. What has Obama done any better? He has very nearly spent more in 8 months than Bush did in 8 years. Obama hasn't had a real test yet either, Bush has to deal with 9/11, dont be so quick to judge him. In 20 years we will be able to look back with a broader understanding, but no one knows all the facts yet.

{ACE}Steve-o wrote:Q and L337, +1.

With war comes spending! I sure am glad Obama wasnt in office when 9/11 happened. I could see it now.

"well, we just need to be friends with al queda. We can unite us all, because we all share religion. With religion we all have truths as our common ground." Ok sorry....ha.

Q-bald wrote:

jjay3200 wrote:
okay i agree with you on the spending part we are spending a bite much in such a short time but are you talking about the econmy when have plunged if obama was in bushes shoes no way cause obama is smarter than bush dont forget that bush was droping any where from 5 to 40 billion in the war almost every week

and please this shouldnt not be blamed on obama because he is black i think that wrong and we should give people a chance no matter what color he is

Yea! I would vote for a black woman if she shared my views, And as far as spending on the War, Freedom is Priceless......GO AMERICA!

Aggressor Dog wrote:When I'm getting shot at in Afghanistan by enemies of this nation, yes, that is where I will be deployed once I commission, you can call me UnAmerican. I dare you.

I will judge the actions the president makes, as it is my DUTY as an AMERICAN to make sure that my vote is going towards what I voted for. So far everything you ahve said about Obama is based off of OPINION (he is smarter than Bush, he is the greatest leader, he is getting the economy back on track,etc etc), yet you treat everyone else in here like they are fact, and our disputing the fact is met with our labeling as UnAmerican. Bite your tongue before you say that, the people here are very patriotic and I can assure you want nothing but the best for this nation.

Aggressor Dog wrote: Bite your tongue before you say that, the people here are very patriotic and I can assure you want nothing but the best for this nation.

{ACE}Steve-o wrote:

Aggressor Dog wrote:When I'm getting shot at in Afghanistan by enemies of this nation, yes, that is where I will be deployed once I commission, you can call me UnAmerican. I dare you.

I will judge the actions the president makes, as it is my DUTY as an AMERICAN to make sure that my vote is going towards what I voted for. So far everything you ahve said about Obama is based off of OPINION (he is smarter than Bush, he is the greatest leader, he is getting the economy back on track,etc etc), yet you treat everyone else in here like they are fact, and our disputing the fact is met with our labeling as UnAmerican. Bite your tongue before you say that, the people here are very patriotic and I can assure you want nothing but the best for this nation.

W00t! Go Paul! +10000000000