Everything 40K Thread

So yeah, 40K is awesome. I'm going to buy Dan Abnetts new book, Titanicus tomorrow.

Someone revive this thread NOW

Aggressor Dog wrote:Someone revive this thread NOW

Yes please do.

Salamander by Nick Kyme comes out in September. I think I'll take a break from the Horus Heresy series to read that one. Here is the teaser text from the back page of the book.....

Hailing from the volcanic world of Nocturne, Space Marines from the Salamanders Chapter are in search of an ancient artefact that leads to a world overrun by Chaos. They are the fire–born: implacable warriors with iron hard determination. But all is not what it seems as far more dangerous foe is revealed. As bitter rivalries break out amongst the Salamanders their endurance will be tested to the limit. Will the Salamanders survive long enough to discover the truth about this world and the revelations that will shake the very foundations of this Chapter forever?

I read up on all the discussions on this thread and all were interesting. You gotta love Warhammer 40k.

Next topic for discussion :

Can a tainted Space Marine be turned back to the Emperor?

No, a darker force is at play, one that has it's own brand of illumination.

It is rumored that the Dark Angels find their Chaos Brethren, the Fallen Angels, and capture them, and using their own methods are successful in returning them into the service , even though the Inquisition tries very hard to investigate this supposed occurence they have been unsuccessful in breaching the ranks of highly secretive Dark Angels. So, according to rumor, it IS possible to turn a tainted Marine back, at least the Dark Angels have their methods.

The only material I've read so far about the Dark Angels is what was in the Sons Of Fenris book. I have Descent Of Angels on my bookshelf once I'm finished with Fulgrim. From what I remember from SOF, it would be fitting that if any of the space marine chapters could bring a battle brother back from being tainted it would be the Dark Angels. They have one of the coolest Primarchs in Lion El'Jonson. Also, it's hard not to get into a space marine chapter heavily influenced by the Knights Templar. Good stuff man.

In theory, there is no reason that a tainted marine could not be brought back to the Emperor.

Next topic up for discussion :

It is the year 40,000, over 9700 years since the fall/disappearance of the last loyalist Primarch. Lets say one of the supposedly living/potentially revivable Primarchs(e.g. Roboute Guilleman, Leman Russ) happens to return to full fledged combat ability. If you could choose such a Primarch to return to the Imperium which one would it be and why? What would the outcome be?

And now for the complete revival of the thread.

I would probably have to choose Guilliman because of the presence, charisma, and combat capability he was known for. Russ is an excellent fighter, but he does not have the sheer presence that Guilliman had and it is my opinion that he would not as readily command loyalty amongst the common people. We also know that the Ultramarines are completely BA.

Now, as for what would potentially occur if he did return, probably not a lot considering Chaos still has a number of living Primarchs. There is no way he could single handedly turn the tide of the war against Chaos but he would certainly give the Imperium more of a fighting chance. He can only be in one place at a time which limits his usability. Sure, he is unmatched amongst mortal men, but he can still be killed as evidenced by the current wound upon his neck. I think that more Primarchs would need to return to completely turn the direction of the war.

In terms of logic, I would also bring back Roboute Guilleman. The Ultramarines have the majority of the splinter chapters after the heresy, seeing as though they have the most pure geneseed. So, a very large number of SpaceMarine chapters would be reclaiming their Gene-father, which would bolster and help guide the already potent SpaceMarines that much more. In terms of tactical value Guilleman would also be of paramount importance in helping to stem the tide of the threats against the Imperium, and he would also be able to provide a perfect and stable genetic blueprint for SpaceMarine manufacture, which his stasis body cannot provide because of its near dead state, something the Ultramarines would never allow to be compromised.

That being said, I would choose Russ. You must remember that in 40k no prophecy is empty, rather, they are all deeply and vastly important. Russ' return to the Imperium heralds the "WolfTime", the literal FINAL battle in which either Chaos or the Imperium will prevail against the other. As you know, Russ was never killed ,rather, he disappeared into the Warp on his own accord. I know you havent finished Thousand Sons yet, but it is common (40k common ) knowledge that Russ defeated Magnus in combat. I really cannot see anything defeating Russ, warp spawned or not. I would not put it past him to carry the Imperium to victory in such a battle heavy handedly. You said that Russ is a great figher, but you may underestimate that potency. Sure, he can only be on one battlefield at a time, but whatever battlefield he is on will win. He simply cannot be stopped, alpha level psykers would be crushed by his onslaught, armored divisions shattered, warp spawned demons immolated, SpaceMarines broken, anything else you can throw at him. However, he does have one ability, beyond any of his brother primarchs, that the Enemy could (and did) use agaisnt him, that is his seemingly inate ability to be tricked. None the less, I'd still choose Russ, just cause I want to see that final battle

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! this thread needs to die

NJSC wrote:NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! this thread needs to die

The Imperium will NEVER die!!!

It's back!

Haven't had time to think of a good question yet though, you got anything?

Come on Paul, this thread will never die

OK, How about this.

Who would win, an assassin of the Temple Callidus, or an assassin of the Temple Eversor?

I believe the Callidus assassin would win this matchup. This, I believe, is due to the fact that initiates of the Temple Callidus are highly intelligent, and are trained to work behind the scenes. Eversor assassins are simply mindless killing machines that use brute force and highly modified genetics to get the job done.

Let's look at the SOP for Callidus assassins. They are smart, tricky, and you never know who they are. They can take the form of anyone and everyone and this gives them a distinct advantage. At this point, you may argue, "But the Eversor assassin is just going to kill everyone, and then it would be gameover." My reply is, the Callidus assassin would be the one in space shape changed into the Admiral of a starship virus bombing the planet the Eversor is on. Brains wins this, hands down.

On top of superior intelligence, the Callidus assassins are highly trained in hand to hand combat. If it were to come down to fisticuffs, Callidus still stands a decent chance. They are trained to use everything around them as a weapon because they are often called upon to be in the presence of persons where a weapon would be unseemly and they have to create their own ways to kill. Masters of improvisation, they would still have a good chance even hand to hand.

I would like to hear your take on the matter.

I would say in most cases that the Callidus would win for that factor. However, even the most prominent Callidus assassins have fallen in hand to hand combat, and for that reason, if the two were in a room, I would choose the Eversor. The Eversor is a mass killing machine, even more effective than SpaceMarines when it comes to slaughter. The assassin who slew the Primarch Konrad Kurze was cut down by a NightLord Apothecary, who used nothing but his anger and hatred to simply outfight the assassin. An Eversor assassin is infinitely more angry and alot more potent than a single SpaceMarine, so, if they were seperated by planets, the Callidus, if they were seperated by kliks, the Eversor.

Well to be fair, the only reason the Callidus was actually able to kill Kurze is because Kurze allowed the assassin to perform his duty, thus making a point. He wanted the Emperor to know he was justified.

Post your favorite 40k pic, not comedy pic, just, yuor favorite 40k picture. You first Spectre.

Nice, BlackTemplars are sweet.

Just thought of another reason Callidus would win. Some Callidus assassins have been able to successfully impersonate Tyranid genestealers, not to mention various humanoid aliens such as Eldar. If you can successfully pull off something like that, then an killing an Eversor would be nothing.