Everything 40K Thread

Yeah, its one of those ^ .

I have another question, try this on for size :

Which weapon would you rather take with you (considering you can handle these weapons accordingly, albeit their size) a melta pattern weapon, or a plasma pattern weapon?

I would personally take a melta-type weapon. Sure, plasma is excellent against skin and most types of armor, but melta just burns straight through anything, youd be well armed against larger foes and armored vehicles. At least on the tabletop, Ive always banked on melta before plasma.

I would take plasma.

Plasma. Mostly because it has a longer range.

Assuming it's us using the weapon, not us in power armor, there's very little chance that we'd get close enough to shoot a tank with a meltagun. In open ground, you'd be seen and shot by the vehicle or its supporting infantry. In an urban environment, you could probably hide from the tank.

Ah good point, I overlooked the fact that I'm not encased in power armor

Agreed, plasma every time in such a case. And we will never run out of topics josh, sorry to burst your bubble

Next question: If you were going to be recruited to join the most exalted ranks of the Adeptus Astartes, but you were allowed to choose which chapter, which would you choose? (Paul, for the purposes of this question, you are forbidden from answering ultramarines)

Fine, I would say the UltraMarines, but in this case, I will choose the Space Wolves. This might not seem like my kind of answer, seeing as though they are teh complete opposite of the UltraMarines, but the fact of the matter is that they have something in common with the UMs, they are on one end of a spectrum. The UltraMarines are on the side upon which doctrine and battle drill lay out of the foundation for completely by the book and extremely tactical warfare. The SpaceWolves are on the opposite of this, where their actions in battle are based off of instinctual and carnal emotions, they use their sheer physical prowess and animal nature to overcome. I like that alot, they have certain features that make them superior in physical nature to other SpaceMarines, however they do have the Wulfen to worry about. They are notorious for the tough-natured brutality in warfare, on the defensive they harrass their enemies and strike fear and doubt amongst the attackers with fierce hand to hand combat and swift counterattacks, while on the offensive they stalk their enemy and strike with speed and ferocity seen very rarely amongst other Chapters.

I know you too well Paul lol.

I would join the Grey Knights, the Imperium's most feared warriors. They are powerful and they have a fascinating history. They are the strongest and most powerful of the remaining chapters, and it is rumoured that they number as many as a legion, though this has not been confirmed or denied. They are steadfastly loyal to the Emperor and they are unique among Astartes in that none of their number has ever succumbed to Chaos and nothing short of the powers of Chaos can defeat them. They specialze in kling the most dangerous and deadly enemy the Imperium has ever faced. What more can you ask for?

The floor is yours Paul.

I say grey knights as well

NJSC wrote:I say grey knights as well

Excellent choice.

Excluding the Grey Knights, what Chapter would you choose, I would say that the GreyKnights are part of the Inquisition as opposed to part of the Astartes, although they are Astartes, plus, I wasnt allowed to answer UltraMarines, so what "normal" chapter would you choose?

Blood Angels

I'm not big on the Imperium, but from what I know, I'd choose the Iron Hands.

Quex wrote:I'm not big on the Imperium, but from what I know, I'd choose the Iron Hands.

Not a bug fan of the Imperium? Blasphemer. It's okay though, the eldar are my favorite race. I used to field either an eldar or dark eldar army depending on my mood. My dark eldar army has never been beaten. It's pretty solid. I haven't played in about three years though.

In a fight to the death, who would win?

Primarch vs. Farseer

Wraithlord vs. GreyKnight Veteran Terminator

Avatar of Khaine vs. Nurgle Daemon Prince

SpongeBob vs. Squidward

Discuss

My favorite race is Tau, so my 40k experience has mostly been focused on them.

Primarch (These are the sons of the Emperor, after all)

I don't know enough to decide Wraithlord vs Grey Knight

Avatar (Avatars are shattered pieces of a god. Daemon Princes are just favored mortals)

SpongeBob (his laughter would probably drive Squidward to commit suicide)

Farseers. You have to understand that these are beings with tens of thousands of years of experience at warfare. The youngest of the elder farseers remember the beginning of the imperium because they were there, and many of them remember the beginning of the human race as well. They are ancient and powerful beings who steer their worlds through danger every day. You cannot fathom the power they have.

Grey knight veteran, all day long. They can only be defeated by the powers of chaos.

And daemon prince vs avatar is a tossup. It is inaccurate to say that daemon princes are simply favored mortals, as they are not, technically speaking, mortals. They are creatures of the warp, and as such, cannot be truly killed. They are a fairly even match because the avatar was designed with the purpose of killing daemon princes, but he is not all powerful.

Spongebob

I am still waiting to hear your answers Paul before I post the next question.

Primarch vs. Farseer

It depends on the Primarch. Magnus the Red could take down a Farseer in my opinion while Angron could probably not, although I would have a difficult time seeing Angron being killed by the Farseer regardless. It would be a very close call either way between all of them, but I'd have to say that either one could come away with victory.

GreyKnight TV vs. Wraithlord

Im gunna have to go with WraithLord on this one. Wraithlords are equally if not more so experienced than Farseers, they are like the Dreadnoughts of the Eldar, except far older. I realize that that the GreyKnights couldnt be killed by anything else ohter than Chaos, but still, its a Wraithlord.

Avatar vs. DaemonPrince is also very difficult, however I specifically said Nurgle Daemon Prince on this one, and Nurgle uses his Plague and warp spawned powers to defeat his enemies, the Avatar isnt succeptible to any form of Plague, so I think the Avatar would have the upper hand in that battle.

Spongebob vs. Squidward, Spongebob, he defeated Neptune, nuff said.

One comment. Wraithlord =/= chaos, ergo Grey Knight wins.

Next question. Do you think the current hierarchy of the Imperium should be changed? Should it be run differently? Should it seek more diplomatic solutions to things? Or do you believe it can continue to operate as it has been?

I'm not very informed as to how the Imperium's government is set up. I can;t really answer this question...sorry...

Poop. It's your turn for the next question then.

Who is more powerful, an Eldar Farseer or the God-Emperor of Humankind in his current corpse-like state?

Aggressor Dog wrote:Who is more powerful, an Eldar Farseer or the God-Emperor of Humankind in his current corpse-like state?

Well, this is very difficult to say definitively because most of the Emperor's concentration is focused on keeping the Infinity gate closed. He only has a very small portion of himself still available to oversee the Imperium. He is not even able to verbalize anything. He must sit in mute concentration and keep that gate closed, lest the Emperyean spill over into the real world. He cannot allow our reality to be taken over by the Warp. In all honesty, what he is doing is for the good of the entire universe, not just humankind.

In his current state, he has very little attention that could be devoted to destroying a farseer, especially one of the ancient farseers such as Eldrad Ulthran. Ulthran still remembers when humanity was but a fledgling race, just learning to use sticks as tools. He remembers when the Emperor first appeared, and it is entirely likely that the two knew each other, and could possibly have been on regular speaking terms. The Emperor was not nearly as close minded as most people would think, he was simply trying to protect humans from what they did not understand.

Not that I have given a suitable backstory, the Emperor, in his current state, probably could not defeat a Farseer without loosening his concentration on the Infinity gate, thus destroying the universe. Having said that, no Farseer would dream of attacking the Emperor because their own survival relies upon him keeping that Gate closed.

I agree with what you say Austin, but I wonder how much of the Emperor's power is actually at his disposal at times. The "miracles" that are performed are undoubtedly works of the Emperor himself. Remember, it is verified 40K lore that an entire chapter of SpaceMarines was rendered invincible in combat by the Emperor's blessing, an act which was performed lightyears away from the Emperor's throne. Is his power really so great that he could perform such a deed in his state? If so, I wonder what offensive powers he could unleash from his state in closer proximity to himself.

Aggressor Dog wrote:I agree with what you say Austin, but I wonder how much of the Emperor's power is actually at his disposal at times. The "miracles" that are performed are undoubtedly works of the Emperor himself. Remember, it is verified 40K lore that an entire chapter of SpaceMarines was rendered invincible in combat by the Emperor's blessing, an act which was performed lightyears away from the Emperor's throne. Is his power really so great that he could perform such a deed in his state? If so, I wonder what offensive powers he could unleash from his state in closer proximity to himself.

The most likely explanation for the Emperor being able to perform such miracles is that due to the natural ebb and flow of the warp, the assault on the Infinity Gate is sometimes lessened (at certain intervals) allowing the Emperor to temporarily shift his attention elsewhere and perform the aforementioned miracles.